Generale inglese: il Qatar e l’Arabia Saudita hanno attivato una bomba a tempo per creare terrore

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Scritto da The Telegraph

Il generale Jonathan Shaw, ex assistente capo del gruppo della difesa inglese, ha detto che il Qatar e l’Arabia Saudita sono responsabili della diffusione dell’Islam radicale.
Il generale Shaw stronca gli alleati arabi occidentali.
Originalmente apparso in “the Telegraph”.
Il Qatar e l’Arabia Saudita hanno innescato una bomba a tempo per sovvenzionare la diffusione globale dell’Islam radicale, secondo un ex comandante delle forze inglesi in Iraq.

Il generale Jonathan Shaw, che si è ritirato dall’incarico di assistente capo del Ministero della Difesa nel 2012, ha detto in un’intervista al “The Telegraph” che il Qatar e l’Arabia Saudita sono stati i primi responsabili dell’incremento delle frange più estremiste dell’Islam che hanno inspirato i terroristi dell’Isis.
I due stati del Golfo hanno speso milioni di dollari per promuovere un’interpretazione militante e prosetilista della loro fede derivata da Abdhul Wahhab, uno studioso del XVII secolo, basata sul Salaf, cioè sui seguaci originari del Profeta.
Ma i governanti di entrambi gli stati sono ora minacciati dalla loro stessa creazione più dell’Inghilterra e dell’America, ha argomentato il Generale Shaw.Lo stato islamico dell’Iraq e del Levante hanno promesso di rovesciare i regimi del Qatar e dell’Arabia Saudita, che considerano entrambi come avamposti corrotti della decadenza e del peccato.
Così il Qatar e l’Arabia Saudita hanno tutte le ragioni di intraprendere una guerra ideologica contro l’Isis. Dal loro punto di vista, ha aggiunto, l’offensiva militare occidentale contro il movimento terrorista è stata probabilmente una prova futile.
“Questa è una bomba a tempo innescata sotto sembianze culturali. In realtà,il Salafismo di Wahhabi sta logorando il mondo. Ed è sovvenzionato dall’Arabia Saudita e dal Qatar e deve fermarsi.” ha detto il Generale Shaw. “Il punto è: bombardare tutti i popoli è realmente una soluzione a tutto questo? Non credo. Preferirei che ci concentrassimo di più sulla battaglia ideologica piuttosto che su quella fisica”
Il generale Shaw, 57 anni, si è ritirato dall’Esercito dopo 31 anni di carriera, che l’hanno visto a capo di un plotone di paracadutisti nella battaglia del Monte Longdon, il più sanguinoso scontro della guerra delle Falklands e supervisionare il ritiro della Gran Bretagna da Basra, nel sud dell’Iraq. Assistente Capo di Stato Maggiore della Difesa, si è specializzato nella lotta al terrorismo e nella politica di sicurezza. Tutto questo lo ha reso acutamente consapevole dei limiti che l’uso della forza può avere. Egli ritiene che l’Isis può essere sconfitto solo con mezzi politici e ideologici. Attacchi aerei occidentali in Iraq e Siria, a suo avviso, non possono raggiungere nulla se non un temporaneo successo tattico. Quando si tratta di condurre tale lotta ideologica, il Qatar e l’Arabia Saudita sono fondamentali. “Il problema principale è che questi due paesi sono gli unici due paesi al mondo in cui il salafismo wahabbita è religione di Stato – e l’Isis è una espressione violenta del salafismo wahabita”, ha detto il General Shaw. La minaccia principale dell’Isis non riguarda gli occidentali: riguarda l’Arabia Saudita e  gli altri stati del Golfo.”
Sia il Qatar che l’Arabia Saudita giocano una piccola parte nella campagna aerea contro l’Isis
contribuendo con due e quattro aerei rispettivamente. Ma il Gen Shaw ha detto che “dovrebbero essere in prima linea” e, soprattutto, che dovrebbero essere a capo di una contro-rivoluzione ideologica contro l’Isis.
La campagna aerea britannica e americana non può “fermare il sostegno a persone in Qatar e Arabia Saudita per questo tipo di attività”, ha aggiunto il General Shaw. “Questo è il punto. Si potrebbe, se funziona, risolvere un problema tattico immediato. Non è affrontare il problema fondamentale del salafismo wahabbita come cultura, che credo sia fuori controllo e che è ancora la base ideologica dell’Isis- e che continuerà ad esistere anche se fermiamo la loro avanzata in Iraq”.
Il Gen Shaw ha detto che l’approccio del governo verso l’Isis è stato fondamentalmente sbagliato. “La gente sta ancora trattando questo come un problema militare, cosa che è, a mio avviso, fraintendere il problema”, ha aggiunto. “La mia preoccupazione sistemica è che stiamo ripetendo gli errori che abbiamo fatto in Afghanistan e in Iraq: stiamo mettendo i militari troppo al centro nella nostra risposta alla minaccia senza affrontare la questione politica fondamentale e le cause. Il pericolo è che ancora una volta stiamo affrontando il trattamento dei sintomi e non delle cause.
Il General Shaw ha detto che il principale obiettivo dell’Isis era di rovesciare i regimi stabiliti del Medio Oriente, non colpire obiettivi occidentali. Si è domandato se l’omicidio dell’Isis di due ostaggi britannici e due americani fosse una giustificazione sufficiente per la campagna.
“L’Isis ha fatto la sua grande incursione in Iraq nel mese di giugno. L’Occidente non ha fatto nulla, nonostante migliaia di persone uccise”, ha detto il Gen Shaw. “Che cosa è cambiato nell’ultimo mese? Decapitazioni in TV di occidentali. E quello ci ha portato a cambiare improvvisamente la nostra politica e a lanciare attacchi aerei.”
Ritiene che l’Isis potrebbe aver ucciso gli ostaggi al fine di provocare una risposta militare dall’America e dalla Gran Bretagna che potrebbe poi essere raffigurato come un assalto cristiano sull’Islam. “Quale possibile vantaggio ha l’Isis a portarci in questa campagna?” ha chiesto il Gen Shaw. Risposta: unire il mondo musulmano contro il mondo cristiano. Abbiamo giocato nelle loro mani. Abbiamo fatto quello che volevano che noi facessimo.”
Tuttavia, l’analisi di Gen Shaw è una questione aperta. Anche se ne avessero la volontà, i governanti dell’Arabia Saudita e del Qatar potrebbero non essere in grado di condurre una lotta ideologica contro l’Isis. Il Re Abdullah di Arabia Saudita ha 91 anni ed è solo sporadicamente attivo. Il suo successore prescelto, il principe ereditario Salman, ha 78 anni e già lo si crede di essere in declino per senilità. La leadership ossificata del regno rischia di essere paralizzata per il futuro più prossimo.
Intanto in Qatar, il nuovo emiro, Tamim Bin Hamad Al-Thani, ha solo 34 anni in una regione che rispetta l’età. Su questa falsa riga, consigliata da Harrow e Sandhurst, ha l’autorità personale di condurre una controrivoluzione ideologica all’interno dell’Islam, senza dubbi.
Dato che l’Arabia Saudita e il Qatar quasi certamente non possono fare ciò che il Gen Shaw ritiene necessario, l’Occidente può avere altra scelta se non di intraprendere un’azione militare contro l’Isis con l’obiettivo di ridurre, se non eliminare, la minaccia terroristica.
Ho solo l’orribile sensazione che stiamo facendo il peggio. Stiamo agendo in un modo che non comprendo”, ha detto il Gen Shaw. “Io sono contro il principio di attaccare senza un progetto politico chiaro. “
Traduzione di Alice L. per civg.it

UK General: Qatar and Saudi Arabia ‘Have Ignited a Time Bomb’ by Backing Terror
19 novembre 2015
General Jonathan Shaw, Britain’s former Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff, says Qatar and Saudi Arabia responsible for spread of radical Islam
General Shaw slammed the West’s Arab “allies”
Originally appeared in The Telegraph
Qatar and Saudi Arabia have ignited a “time bomb” by funding the global spread of radical Islam, according to a former commander of British forces in Iraq.
General Jonathan Shaw, who retired as Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff in 2012, told The Telegraph that Qatar and Saudi Arabia were primarily responsible for the rise of the extremist Islam that inspires Isil terrorists.
The two Gulf states have spent billions of dollars on promoting a militant and proselytising interpretation of their faith derived from Abdul Wahhab, an eighteenth century scholar, and based on the Salaf, or the original followers of the Prophet.
But the rulers of both countries are now more threatened by their creation than Britain or America, argued Gen Shaw. The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) has vowed to topple the Qatari and Saudi regimes, viewing both as corrupt outposts of decadence and sin.
So Qatar and Saudi Arabia have every reason to lead an ideological struggle against Isil, said Gen Shaw. On its own, he added, the West’s military offensive against the terrorist movement was likely to prove “futile”.
“This is a time bomb that, under the guise of education, Wahhabi Salafism is igniting under the world really. And it is funded by Saudi and Qatari money and that must stop,” said Gen Shaw. “And the question then is ‘does bombing people over there really tackle that?’ I don’t think so. I’d far rather see a much stronger handle on the ideological battle rather than the physical battle.”
Gen Shaw, 57, retired from the Army after a 31-year career that saw him lead a platoon of paratroopers in the Battle of Mount Longdon, the bloodiest clash of the Falklands War, and oversee Britain’s withdrawal from Basra in southern Iraq. As Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff, he specialised in counter-terrorism and security policy.
All this has made him acutely aware of the limitations of what force can achieve. He believes that Isil can only be defeated by political and ideological means. Western air strikes in Iraq and Syria will, in his view, achieve nothing except temporary tactical success.
When it comes to waging that ideological struggle, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are pivotal. “The root problem is that those two countries are the only two countries in the world where Wahhabi Salafism is the state religion – and Isil is a violent expression of Wahabist Salafism,” said Gen Shaw.
“The primary threat of Isil is not to us in the West: it’s to Saudi Arabia and also to the other Gulf states.”
Both Qatar and Saudi Arabia are playing small parts in the air campaign against Isil, contributing two and four jet fighters respectively. But Gen Shaw said they “should be in the forefront” and, above all, leading an ideological counter-revolution against Isil.
The British and American air campaign would not “stop the support of people in Qatar and Saudi Arabia for this kind of activity,” added Gen Shaw. “It’s missing the point. It might, if it works, solve the immediate tactical problem. It’s not addressing the fundamental problem of Wahhabi Salafism as a culture and a creed, which has got out of control and is still the ideological basis of Isil – and which will continue to exist even if we stop their advance in Iraq.”
Gen Shaw said the Government’s approach towards Isil was fundamentally mistaken. “People are still treating this as a military problem, which is in my view to misconceive the problem,” he added. “My systemic worry is that we’re repeating the mistakes that we made in Afghanistan and Iraq: putting the military far too up front and centre in our response to the threat without addressing the fundamental political question and the causes. The danger is that yet again we’re taking a symptomatic treatment not a causal one.”
Gen Shaw said that Isil’s main focus was on toppling the established regimes of the Middle East, not striking Western targets. He questioned whether Isil’s murder of two British and two American hostages was sufficient justification for the campaign.
“Isil made their big incursion into Iraq in June. The West did nothing, despite thousands of people being killed,” said Gen Shaw. “What’s changed in the last month? Beheadings on TV of Westerners. And that has led us to suddenly change our policy and suddenly launch air attacks.”
He believes that Isil might have murdered the hostages in order to provoke a military response from America and Britain which could then be portrayed as a Christian assault on Islam. “What possible advantage is there to Isil of bringing us into this campaign?” asked Gen Shaw. “Answer: to unite the Muslim world against the Christian world. We played into their hands. We’ve done what they wanted us to do.”
However, Gen Shaw’s analysis is open to question. Even if they had the will, the rulers of Saudi Arabia and Qatar may be incapable of leading an ideological struggle against Isil. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is 91 and only sporadically active. His chosen successor, Crown Prince Salman, is 78 and already believed to be declining into senility. The kingdom’s ossified leadership is likely to be paralysed for the foreseeable future.
Meanwhile in Qatar, the new Emir, Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, is only 34 in a region that respects age. Whether this Harrow and Sandhurst-educated ruler has the personal authority to lead an ideological counter-revolution within Islam is doubtful.
Given that Saudi Arabia and Qatar almost certainly cannot do what Gen Shaw believes to be necessary, the West may have no option except to take military action against Isil with the aim of reducing, if not eliminating, the terrorist threat.
“I just have a horrible feeling that we’re making things worse. We’re entering into this in a way we just don’t understand,” said Gen Shaw. “I’m against the principle of us attacking without a clear political plan.”
UK General: Qatar and Saudi Arabia ‘Have Ignited a Time Bomb’ by Backing Terror                                                                              19 novembre 2015
General Jonathan Shaw, Britain’s former Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff, says Qatar and Saudi Arabia responsible for spread of radical Islam
General Shaw slammed the West’s Arab “allies”
Originally appeared in The Telegraph

Qatar and Saudi Arabia have ignited a “time bomb” by funding the global spread of radical Islam, according to a former commander of British forces in Iraq.
General Jonathan Shaw, who retired as Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff in 2012, told The Telegraph that Qatar and Saudi Arabia were primarily responsible for the rise of the extremist Islam that inspires Isil terrorists.
The two Gulf states have spent billions of dollars on promoting a militant and proselytising interpretation of their faith derived from Abdul Wahhab, an eighteenth century scholar, and based on the Salaf, or the original followers of the Prophet.
But the rulers of both countries are now more threatened by their creation than Britain or America, argued Gen Shaw. The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) has vowed to topple the Qatari and Saudi regimes, viewing both as corrupt outposts of decadence and sin.
So Qatar and Saudi Arabia have every reason to lead an ideological struggle against Isil, said Gen Shaw. On its own, he added, the West’s military offensive against the terrorist movement was likely to prove “futile”.
“This is a time bomb that, under the guise of education, Wahhabi Salafism is igniting under the world really. And it is funded by Saudi and Qatari money and that must stop,” said Gen Shaw. “And the question then is ‘does bombing people over there really tackle that?’ I don’t think so. I’d far rather see a much stronger handle on the ideological battle rather than the physical battle.”
Gen Shaw, 57, retired from the Army after a 31-year career that saw him lead a platoon of paratroopers in the Battle of Mount Longdon, the bloodiest clash of the Falklands War, and oversee Britain’s withdrawal from Basra in southern Iraq. As Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff, he specialised in counter-terrorism and security policy.
All this has made him acutely aware of the limitations of what force can achieve. He believes that Isil can only be defeated by political and ideological means. Western air strikes in Iraq and Syria will, in his view, achieve nothing except temporary tactical success.
When it comes to waging that ideological struggle, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are pivotal. “The root problem is that those two countries are the only two countries in the world where Wahhabi Salafism is the state religion – and Isil is a violent expression of Wahabist Salafism,” said Gen Shaw.
“The primary threat of Isil is not to us in the West: it’s to Saudi Arabia and also to the other Gulf states.”
Both Qatar and Saudi Arabia are playing small parts in the air campaign against Isil, contributing two and four jet fighters respectively. But Gen Shaw said they “should be in the forefront” and, above all, leading an ideological counter-revolution against Isil.
The British and American air campaign would not “stop the support of people in Qatar and Saudi Arabia for this kind of activity,” added Gen Shaw. “It’s missing the point. It might, if it works, solve the immediate tactical problem. It’s not addressing the fundamental problem of Wahhabi Salafism as a culture and a creed, which has got out of control and is still the ideological basis of Isil – and which will continue to exist even if we stop their advance in Iraq.”
Gen Shaw said the Government’s approach towards Isil was fundamentally mistaken. “People are still treating this as a military problem, which is in my view to misconceive the problem,” he added. “My systemic worry is that we’re repeating the mistakes that we made in Afghanistan and Iraq: putting the military far too up front and centre in our response to the threat without addressing the fundamental political question and the causes. The danger is that yet again we’re taking a symptomatic treatment not a causal one.”
Gen Shaw said that Isil’s main focus was on toppling the established regimes of the Middle East, not striking Western targets. He questioned whether Isil’s murder of two British and two American hostages was sufficient justification for the campaign.
“Isil made their big incursion into Iraq in June. The West did nothing, despite thousands of people being killed,” said Gen Shaw. “What’s changed in the last month? Beheadings on TV of Westerners. And that has led us to suddenly change our policy and suddenly launch air attacks.”
He believes that Isil might have murdered the hostages in order to provoke a military response from America and Britain which could then be portrayed as a Christian assault on Islam. “What possible advantage is there to Isil of bringing us into this campaign?” asked Gen Shaw. “Answer: to unite the Muslim world against the Christian world. We played into their hands. We’ve done what they wanted us to do.”
However, Gen Shaw’s analysis is open to question. Even if they had the will, the rulers of Saudi Arabia and Qatar may be incapable of leading an ideological struggle against Isil. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is 91 and only sporadically active. His chosen successor, Crown Prince Salman, is 78 and already believed to be declining into senility. The kingdom’s ossified leadership is likely to be paralysed for the foreseeable future.
Meanwhile in Qatar, the new Emir, Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, is only 34 in a region that respects age. Whether this Harrow and Sandhurst-educated ruler has the personal authority to lead an ideological counter-revolution within Islam is doubtful.
Given that Saudi Arabia and Qatar almost certainly cannot do what Gen Shaw believes to be necessary, the West may have no option except to take military action against Isil with the aim of reducing, if not eliminating, the terrorist threat.
“I just have a horrible feeling that we’re making things worse. We’re entering into this in a way we just don’t understand,” said Gen Shaw. “I’m against the principle of us attacking without a clear political plan.”